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Shared Topic: Relationships within Azeroth

November 5, 2009

Submitted by @Naithin of Tank ‘n’ Tree

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I find that people are less and less friendly in Azeroth.

In my beginning days (months?  Year?) of playing I felt like the game was a friendly place.  If you happened to see people out while questing, you asked if you could group to complete a quest you both needed, chatted in party.  You enjoyed the chatting so much that you added them to your friends list and then would chat from time to time as you saw them on.  You grouped later for more quests.  If you needed help with something in town and had the audacity to ask in general (yes, I did this once!) you got a kind and helpful answer.  When you found someone in /trade to craft something for you, they were polite and crafted it and accepted a tip – they didn’t demand a huge fee, even if you provided mats.  In short: people were nice.

Now, it seems like everyone just keeps their head down and ignores everything on the way to 80.  By now, everyone has an 80 (or three) and they spend their time in Northrend.  The number of low levels is extremely small, so you don’t really see people leveling up and when you do, they’re more likely to race you to kill the named mob you need than to stop and ask if you need it as well.  Then once you’re actually in Northrend, everyone’s concerned with gold.

That’s a pretty bleak picture I just painted, but the way that WoW is now for me and how WoW was for me before are almost as different as black and white.  I made friends just by randomly talking to people as I was leveling up, when I was a new player.  And the friendships lasted quite a bit!  People were open and friendly and it was easy.  When I retired my rogue and Lus and I rolled on the Exodar, that’s when things changed.  I was guildless until Outlands and only once I was in my guild did I make friends.  Then, the only friends after that were friends of guildies.  It was a small social circle, but I loved my guildmates and we had a great time.

Which makes me wonder: after finding a home in a guild, do you find yourself to stay within “guild friend” boundaries, since hey! that’s where your friends are.  Or do you still see yourself consistently making friends outside your usual circle?

I don’t think it was Exodar as a server that was the problem, since I’ve played on many a server since then and it’s all been the same, wherever I went.  If I happened to know someone on a server, a friend or someone from Twitter, we would talk.  But anyone else?  Nope.

In Vanilla WoW, was it more about fun and the experience as opposed to now, where the focus for the player base is, by and large, raiding?  I know that Vanilla WoW had raids as well, but they didn’t seem to be the end all be all that raids are treated as now.  Smelling the roses and being social seems to have taken a back seat.

A perk of switching servers to Feathermoon, I’m finding out, is that I’m going to a server where the point of the server is player interaction outside of groups or raids.  This is a whole new ballgame for me and hopefully it will go well, since this is my first foray into RP.  There is a whole handful of people from twitter for me to talk to on the server and to help me learn, and that makes me happy.  But there are a whole bunch of other people I haven’t even met yet who are on that server for the same reasons I am – to interact with other players and start friendships.

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  1. November 5, 2009 10:55 PM

    I think you’re feeling the same way a lot of us are. I wrote a week or two ago on a similar issue. Personally, without positive and fun interaction with other folks the game gets boring for me. I’ve thought about moving on of my otherwise unplayed alliance toons to an RP realm. Gl to you and hope you share your adventures along the way on the new server.

  2. November 5, 2009 11:28 PM

    See, this seems to be the reason why I’ve stopped playing my Horde characters. They’re all on Durotan, a normal pve server. When I log on one of my Hordies and immediately see people in trade/general chat arguing, making Chuck Norris jokes, and spouting off the most vulgar comments or insults they can think of, it just kills it. And yes, I know it happens everywhere, even on RP realms, but it’s nowhere near as prevalent. Hmm, or maybe it’s just worse than normal on Durotan.I’m seriously thinking of transferring all my Hordies to Feathermoon. :/.-= Sarai´s last blog ..<a href="http://spiritbond.blogspot.com/2009/11/shaurria-day-of-dead.html“ rel=”nofollow”>Shaurria: Day of the Dead =-.

  3. Angelya permalink
    November 6, 2009 3:58 AM

    I agree, people just don’t seem interested in helping each other out anymore. The first guild I joined a couple of years ago was because of a few people I grouped up with to do quests in the hinterlands and searing gorge… and I still keep in touch with those people nowadays even though we are in different guilds and don’t see each other around much. Lately the level experience seems to be so angled towards solo-ing everything that you just don’t need to ask for help. Its a shame.

  4. November 6, 2009 2:18 PM

    That’s exactly how I am feeling since many months. When I take a look at my old screenshots I cannot believe how much FUN I had leveling, meeting new people, everybody was helpful without expecting any reward and the whole WoW community was like a little family.But these days I feel a little bitter. Okay, I am one of these persons with a couple of level 80 chars but I love this game, I love the community, to talk with others and I switched to a roleplay-server because on my old one you got yelled at if you tried to sell stuff in the trade chat and now flame like all the others did… Everybody seams to only love himself and as you already mentioned: the huge fees they want for clicking one button (crafting) is hilarious. I don’t even accept tips when I am crafting for others, I just want to help them, not stealing their money to do one click.Everything is a little sad :( Where did the great community go?I really hope you’ll find a better future on that RP server! Wish you all the best!.-= Nanuki´s last blog ..<a href="http://nanuki.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/aion-vs-wow/“ rel=”nofollow”>AION vs WoW =-.

  5. November 6, 2009 10:39 PM

    Thank you – I hope you can find a good home for your Alliance characters on an RP realm!

  6. November 6, 2009 10:40 PM

    Yes, the trade chat is a huge turnoff – I’ve taken to just leaving trade – I don’t know why I didn’t do it sooner. It takes care of the problem on my end, but then part of me is indignant that I even had to do it at all.

  7. November 6, 2009 10:43 PM

    You’re right – soloing sort of kills the camaraderie, doesn’t it? I wonder if Blizz thought about this repercussion when they changed things – and if they did, why they thought it was ok to sacrifice.

  8. November 6, 2009 10:45 PM

    Thank you!Re: crafting – I am one of those people like you, who don’t charge fees just for clicking a button. I will admit that I do accept tips if they offer one, but I certainly never expect them. When I have to find someone in trade to craft something for me, if I get a response from someone asking “how much” I will tell that person thank you anyway – even if it means that I have to keep looking for a longer time. Once I find a person who is friendly and willing to help without demanding a fee, I go to them for business, tip well and note their name to come back later.What goes around comes around!

  9. November 7, 2009 5:30 AM

    I feel the exact opposite!The longer I hang around on my server on Barthilas the more I feel at home. I spend a lot of time hanging around the BG portals in Dalaran, wasting time, and often I’ll end up in a party with other players from my server and queue whatever bg they’re running.I know a lot of the players who are vocal in Trade chat, so even that doesn’t feel completely alien.And I’ve guild hopped enough to run into people that I know whenever I’m at the Eventide.It’s a small world. And I love it.

  10. November 7, 2009 5:30 AM

    I feel the exact opposite!The longer I hang around on my server on Barthilas the more I feel at home. I spend a lot of time hanging around the BG portals in Dalaran, wasting time, and often I’ll end up in a party with other players from my server and queue whatever bg they’re running.I know a lot of the players who are vocal in Trade chat, so even that doesn’t feel completely alien.And I’ve guild hopped enough to run into people that I know whenever I’m at the Eventide.It’s a small world. And I love it.

  11. November 7, 2009 9:51 AM

    I feel the same way – I do group up with people nowadays for a named quest mob or similar, but after the mob is dead everyone says thanks for group and leaves, no chatting or no continuing to keep company and finish off other quests.I think the difference might be that in old WoW, not everyone at lvl 60 was a raider, for a variety of reasons it was not such a focused goal for everyone to get to 60 asap and start raiding, so people had more time to hang out and take the scenic route..-= Tessy´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ReflectionsFromThePond/~3/FBcmoE7lzPs/“ rel=”nofollow”>What A Long Strange Trip It Has Been =-.

  12. November 7, 2009 3:20 PM

    I’ll admit I don’t talk to people much when I’m leveling. To me, the whole point of playing a low level character is to get away from it all and just focus on questing. I’ll buff people I run past and I’ll politely answer tells, but if I see someone killing the same mobs as me, I’m more likely to come back later than to join a group.

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